vampiric summoning

You are not bringing in a Deity you invoke certainly qualities of a Deity within you. Often times when it's done the behavior of an invocator changes and she/he radiate different quality of energy. Deities are omnipotent and certain individuals are gifted with certain qualities that make them Deitylike.

Aghrab wrote
Do not take this as an offense, but if by Great Goddess and Mother, you are referring to Aset... I have to say that I see Her as an Unreachable Goddess... only reachable by Her Children and those within the Asetian Family."

Good, thought out posts on this thread. I personally take no offense to any posts. Contrary to Aghrab's worthy comments, I do feel that Aset is reachable and that those who truly are Her children will find their way back to Her. By "Her" I mean the primordial Aset, Great of Heka, not the Greco-Roman Isis hieronymos as described by R. E. Witt et al.

Phoenix wrote:By "Her" I mean the primordial Aset, Great of Heka, not the Greco-Roman Isis hieronymos as described by R. E. Witt et al.

I have studies Goddess Spirituality since 1993, shortly after my second vision. If you seriosly study the Goddess history and mythology you will see that there is only One Divine Feminine that had emanated and manifested in many different forms through out the existance of the Earth and before. She is omnipresent, thus can appear similtaniously in difference places at the same time while remaining fully present in the Universe. Prior to Aset, there was a Bird Goddess in Sumaria and Babylon that was workshiped 400,000 years ago. Many of the Goddess have same qualities and themes in their mythology according to the quality of the Divine Feminine they represent. The only difference is their names... The difference between Aset and Isis is just in a name. Just like Jesus was called Yashua (which is his historical name) until Western world got involved in Christianity.. In fact many people think Christ is a "name" - a sign of ignorance on their part. It is in the same way Artemis of Ephesus was adopted by Christians and renamed into Mary. Subsequently all her titles including Queen of Heave where past on to Mary as well.

Prior to Aset, there was a Bird Goddess in Sumaria and Babylon that was workshiped 400,000 years ago

This is a Sumerian myth that dates back to Sumerian texts (3200 BCE) which in turn says it is 400,000 years old.

empress: I gather you do not accept the Asetian cosmogony and that is fine, I my self am interested in your take on things even if I don't agree with them.

Just like there are parallel Universes so there are parallel cosmogonies.. However, most of them do not deviated from one another too much, except for occasional reversals of gender roles and different names, i.e. some races have Sky Gods others Sky Goddesses, some Earth God others Earth Goddesses... it all depends on how the Divine manifested itself to them. As a natural medium, clairvoyant and channeler I do not believe in accepting something unless it comes from the Source. I do read a lot, but am very selective and can feel the book without holding it in my hands.. So far my gifts have never failed me or others who come to me for help or council.

Just like there are parallel Universes so there are parallel cosmogonies

I like that theory, interesting>

I must be a nice guy in some other world.....

i dont know if im on the same page but this may help. when any new religion is created with devoted followers a special energy is created called a deity.(i think). so if i create a religion that worships demonic teady bears i can evoke a demonic teady bear if i choose. its all about the mindset. and im leaving to alaska 2maro so cya later!

AH.....Angels and demons are one and the same....just depends on how they manifest....?

Maxxx

goingpostal wrote:i dont know if im on the same page but this may help. when any new religion is created with devoted followers a special energy is created called a deity.(i think). so if i create a religion that worships demonic teady bears i can evoke a demonic teady bear if i choose. its all about the mindset. and im leaving to alaska 2maro so cya later!

You will not create a Deity, you will create an Entity.. with low energetic frequencies. Deity cannot be created by humans.. It manifests on Earth in a form that is comprehendable to humans and entice them to believe in its Supreme nature. Some do it through love, others through fear.

Ankhhape wrote:

Just like there are parallel Universes so there are parallel cosmogonies

I like that theory, interesting>

It does make sense, doesn't it... that is why so many cosmogonies are so alike...

empress2K wrote:
Again, I am only speaking from my personal experience and not from reading books.

There are many here that also speak from personal, and at times, collective experience. As we all know, books can only tell us so much before true research becomes necessary.

empress2K wrote:
Yes, Aset, or any other major deity are infinite and we, being a natural part of them, are able to call on their qualities that are within us to come forward

As far as Aset is concerned, only her Children are a natural part of Her - those that carry within them the charge of the Violet Flame - and those that she has chosen to be a part of Her. Humans without any connection to her Divine Essence may search for lifetime after lifetime to become connected with Her...but will do so in vain.

One can become connected with their higher self of course, this is a natural path towards evolution. But true connection to Aset takes more than mere Will.

I believe it says in the Book of Nun that human souls were created by Amon. In traditional Egyptian religion it is Khnum that creates man, though Khnum is most likely another facet of Amon, I could be wrong.

Talibah wrote:

empress2K wrote:
Yes, Aset, or any other major deity are infinite and we, being a natural part of them, are able to call on their qualities that are within us to come forward

As far as Aset is concerned, only her Children are a natural part of Her - those that carry within them the charge of the Violet Flame - and those that she has chosen to be a part of Her. Humans without any connection to her Divine Essence may search for lifetime after lifetime to become connected with Her...but will do so in vain.

One can become connected with their higher self of course, this is a natural path towards evolution. But true connection to Aset takes more than mere Will.

Very well said...

Not everyone is a Children of Aset. Far from it.
From my understanding, Aset never gave birth to humans.

Ankhhape wrote:I believe it says in the Book of Nun that human souls were created by Amon. In traditional Egyptian religion it is Khnum that creates man, though Khnum is most likely another facet of Amon, I could be wrong.

That is right, according to the Book of Nun, human souls are created by Amon, a primeval force that is not a he or a she.

I have read a bit about what you mentioned, concerning Khnum, and your assumptions seem to make sense. I mean, I am no one to validate or say if that is not true, or if can be accepted in terms of Asetianism and the divine dynamics of the Universe, but personally it does not strike me as something odd.