The Kheperu Mantra

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The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Talibah on 23/9/2008, 9:00 am

Em Hotep everyone,

Can anyone give me the correct pronunciation of each word of the Kheperu Mantra.....?
I feel there is little point in trying to include it into my daily routine, if I am not certain I am pronouncing each word correctly!
Also, I'm just wondering, how many others use this Mantra?

Many thanks.

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Ankhhape on 23/9/2008, 2:02 pm

kheper ee kheper kheperoo kheperkooyeh m kheperoo n khepree kheper m sep tepy
Kheper-i kheper kheperu kheper-kuie em kheperu en Khepri kheper em SepTepy

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Victor on 29/9/2008, 11:24 am

It may be hard to know the exact sounding of that and other Kemetic mantras. Maybe Maktub may point us in the right direction in what comes to modern research achievement on that field, but I still believe that type of knowledge is in a way lost. At least for those of us that like me lack the knowledge and understanding over Kemetic magickal words and sounding, like the secret language of the Asetians known as Serkem.
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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Syrianeh on 1/10/2008, 11:26 am

As I understand it, kheper is pronounced "Kheffer"...

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Talibah on 1/10/2008, 2:59 pm

Syrianeh,
that is also what I have come to understand. Although, as Victor stated, perfecting the exact sounding of the words when strung together is a little trial and error.

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Post by Syrianeh on 1/10/2008, 3:14 pm

Talibah wrote:Syrianeh,
that is also what I have come to understand. Although, as Victor stated, perfecting the exact sounding of the words when strung together is a little trial and error.


True. I suppose it's not so much the exact pronunciation as to the rhythm and vibration.

I have also recently started to use this mantra. Not yet to the point that I become oblivious to it and recite it mechanically, but I do think I have caught on to the rhythm.

But at the same time I'm learning to meditate properly, so it's all a question of information overload Smile

Does anyone have some useful advice on meditation techniques?

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Talibah on 2/10/2008, 10:42 am

I completely agree Syrianeh...Information overload indeed Very Happy

I too have only just started using this mantra, and trying to keep in a state of meditation whilst concentrating on the rhythm is proving to be a trying task....Embarassed ....I have found that if I am not properly grounded, (head in the clouds somewhat) then internal distractions tend to get in the way of productive meditation. *shrugs..some may disagree*

I use various techniques that have helped me, you are more than welcome to PM me if you would like to discuss this further.

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Maktub on 2/10/2008, 4:38 pm

Just as a side note, the Aset Ka has far more interesting and deep mantras than the transformational one referred in this thread. Lets hope some of them can be shared in any future work of public access from the Order, otherwise makes it harder to discuss it on this vehicle that is the forum.

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Ankhhape on 2/10/2008, 5:15 pm

I've had great success in composing from using the Kheperu Mantra
Matter of fact I plan on composing a piece using the Mantra itself.
Being that mantras are sound / vibration based I seem to gravitate towards their use and relate better.
I look forward to any other mantras the AK bless us with
Kheper-i kheper kheperu kheper-kuie em kheperu en Khepri kheper em SepTepy

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Post by Ankhhape on 8/10/2008, 1:25 pm

Could I ask a few of you . . . "how many syllables do you count in the Kheperu Mantra?"
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Post by Syrianeh on 8/10/2008, 2:35 pm

A'nen Sedjet wrote:Could I ask a few of you . . . "how many syllables do you count in the Kheperu Mantra?"


I count 25, though depending on how you read it out. But it could also e 24, because "kuie" can be read as one syllable - and the number 24 in itself is much more significant.

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Victor on 8/10/2008, 3:33 pm

Syrianeh wrote:
A'nen Sedjet wrote:Could I ask a few of you . . . "how many syllables do you count in the Kheperu Mantra?"


I count 25, though depending on how you read it out. But it could also e 24, because "kuie" can be read as one syllable - and the number 24 in itself is much more significant.

Interesting. What significance do you see on it?
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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Syrianeh on 8/10/2008, 4:03 pm

Victor wrote:Interesting. What significance do you see on it?


Number 24 is linked to reincarnation cycles and the evolution of the spirit towards illumination.

(I might add that 24 is 2+4 = 6, which is in harmony with the "trinity" ensemble of the three Castes - while multiplying it by 2 (3x2 = 6) signifying the duality inherent to each one of them - but that's just random thinking on my part.)

Number 25 as far as I know represents the world of the divine among other things. It is also of significance, but I would say 24 applies much more to the Mantra's meaning.

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Re: The Kheperu Mantra

Post by Ankhhape on 8/10/2008, 4:10 pm

Kheper ee kheper
kheperu


2 1 2 3





kheper-kuie em Kheperu en


4 1 3 1





Khepri kheper em
Sep
Tepy



2 2 1 1 2
I have grouped these polyrhythms into groups of 5/8 - 7/8 and /8/8
I am having a singer overlay these rhythms on top of each other
Alone the groupings sung Mantra style are very hypnotic

Interesting 25 - 2 + 5 = 7 (Aset)
Kheper-i kheper kheperu kheper-kuie em kheperu en Khepri kheper em SepTepy

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Post by Ankhhape on 8/10/2008, 4:16 pm

Well, that didn't post any where how I wanted it to . . . and there's no editing of your own post here is there?
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