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Post by Aghrab on 23/5/2009, 4:46 pm

I wanted to throw an idea out there, and see how many agree and how many disagree with me on this.

I was recently giving a thought that... Guardians are detached beings to the ones that they may have been able to create quite a thick link with, an energetic link, during their childhood. They are also said to be the most grounded Asetians. In other words, when you are so grounded as the Guardians, you are too shielded to normally interact with energy, too shielded to allow the development of creating energetic links or bonds. I believe that one of the greatest reasons to why a Guardian is so detached from the society and from their biological parents is because of their massive shields and natural grounding abilities, literally blocking them from even creating unconscious bonds and links, with humans. Do you agree or disagree?

Also, if this is a big reason to why a Guardian is so detached... would it make sense to say that a Guardian working with grounding stones, such as hematite, tourmaline quartz and black tourmaline, magnetite, jasper, onyx and others, can become even more detached with society and their biological parents? Using such minerals forces the Guardian to become even more grounded, meaning they will develop even more massive shields than they already naturally do...

Another small note... do you believe grounding minerals such as the ones I mentioned above, would be able to help a Concubine towards detachment?

I am looking forward to reading your posts.

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Post by Daniel09 on 24/5/2009, 3:34 am

I believe it is very complicated. The Guardian can probably form energetic bonds, but they are very hard to form and likely take a long time. It it likely that a person who is grounded in spirit to the earth, or has a connection, could form an easier bond with the Guardian. The same could be said of handling the stones. If someone has a spiritual connection the stone the Guardian handles, it may shut him/her off from others, but at the same time draw him/her much closer to a specific few.

To help a Concubine towards attachment, because they are not as savvy with the earth, minerals would not be as effective in my opinion. Perhaps if a Guardian was there to lend the Concubine help, it could be managed much easier, but in that situation I doubt the stones would then be needed at all.

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by Daniel09 on 24/5/2009, 3:36 am

"If someone has a spiritual connection the stone the Guardian handles,
it may shut him/her off from others, but at the same time draw him/her
much closer to a specific few."

Just to be completely clear about this sentence, I am saying the Guardian would be shut off at the same time as being opened to the few, not the "someone who has a spiritual connection the stone the Guardian handles".

I want to try to reduce the possible misinterpretations. (:

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by geo on 24/5/2009, 5:27 am

Hi,
What I'm about to ask It's a bit off topic, but I feel the need to ask it still.

"I believe that one of the greatest reasons to why a
Guardian is so detached from the society and from their biological
parents is because of their massive shields and natural grounding
abilities, literally blocking them from even creating unconscious bonds
and links, with humans". - Aghrab


Even though Guardians are detached from their biological parents, do you think they are down at times because of the detachment?

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by Aghrab on 24/5/2009, 6:02 am

geo wrote:Even though Guardians are detached from their biological parents, do you think they are down at times because of the detachment?


By "down" do you mean if they get sad about it?

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by geo on 24/5/2009, 6:54 am

Yes, very sad.

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by Aghrab on 24/5/2009, 7:51 am

No, not at all, geo. As a matter of fact, many times Guardians are seen as the “worse daughters/sons ever”, “the coldest beings” and many times criticized for their arrogantly cold ways, and they actually are proud of it and never wish to change. Their detachment is inborn within them, they are simply born that way. They naturally let go of their biological parents because their Souls tell them that the biological family are not the true ones. A true Guardian would never, ever feel down for it. They seem to even enjoy being left alone, only surrounded by the few that they feel for.

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Post by Gilded on 24/5/2009, 8:07 am

Geo: Have you read the Asetian Bible yet? If not, I would highly recommend you to get your hands on one. You will be surprised to see how it would answer most of your questions. study

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Post by geo on 24/5/2009, 9:35 am

I have one. I started reading it (the lineages part), but stopped for now. I'm waiting to be in the right state of mind to fully get into it. It's not a good time right now.

It does not seem right though Aghrab... Even if the biological parents are not their true parents, Guardians are "beings of pure love", they are "very sensitive and caring", and though they "express it towards some select few", I don't think or maybe I just don't want to believe the fact that they would feel nothing for the ones that love them unconditionally, forever. They are beings with very powerful shields, and though they live for that one true love - their half, the Truth, their thoughts or ideas -, I think there's much more hiding inside them...emotions that maybe they would keep away from anybody else just to reach that true Love, at a cost. Their strenght, their secrets, their emotional turmoil stay inside the shield and break free through the Deadly Poison, such a complex act.
...I just can't see how beings of such intense love can be that cold...there must be more to it...

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Post by Aghrab on 24/5/2009, 5:40 pm

geo wrote:I have one. I started reading it (the lineages part), but stopped for now. I'm waiting to be in the right state of mind to fully get into it. It's not a good time right now.


Yes, you need a special state of mind to be able to truly read and understand the Asetian Bible.

geo wrote:It does not seem right though Aghrab... Even if the biological parents are not their true parents, Guardians are "beings of pure love", they are "very sensitive and caring", and though they "express it towards some select few", I don't think or maybe I just don't want to believe the fact that they would feel nothing for the ones that love them unconditionally, forever. They are beings with very powerful shields, and though they live for that one true love - their half, the Truth, their thoughts or ideas -, I think there's much more hiding inside them...emotions that maybe they would keep away from anybody else just to reach that true Love, at a cost. Their strenght, their secrets, their emotional turmoil stay inside the shield and break free through the Deadly Poison, such a complex act.
...I just can't see how beings of such intense love can be that cold...there must be more to it...


Well of course they are beings of pure Love and unconditional care, but why would they show it towards biological parents and family when they are nothing but their vessel to life? They naturally feel no bond with their biological parents and families. That softness is what they feel towards the Asetian Family only.

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Post by Victor on 24/5/2009, 9:04 pm

Geo, parents' love is not really unconditional love forever as you put it. That is nothing but an illusion. Most parents, nearly all, feel for their children as a result of a natural biological condition. It is in the genes of animals to protect and nourish their offsprings. It is a chemical thing, not about love. Not about energy. Not about true care. In the case of humans, that lack most of their instincts and natural reactions, it is even a selfish thing when they overprotect and care for their children, since they do it in the hopes that when they grow, they will not leave them and would stay and take care of them as they grow old. The typical selfish mind of mothers and fathers operates that way, most people are just too used in trying not to believe it, becoming blind to the actual dirty nature of mankind.
When you mention that Guardians are being of pure love, you must never forget that it applies only exclusively to their soulmates and the closer, most intimate, individuals inside of the Asetian Family. They are not caring, loving or gentle to anyone outside of it, and their biological family are just other mortals for them, no more and no less. Actually, in most cases, they would even have less feelings for their biological family than to the other common humans, because of the turmoil situation of when they wanted to detach and all the problems and obstacles their family might bring upon them. This lack of understanding from their biological families usually creates an even further detachment and dislike towards their biological families more than anyone else. This may sound horrible to most people, and it surely does sound completely evil and mean to humans, but that is the nature of true Guardians... the poisonous Scorpions of the Aset Ka.

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by geo on 25/5/2009, 1:27 am

I'm sorry, but I do not agree with any of that. I am a mother and I love my daughter more than life itself. She is my everything, and though I know that unfortunately there are too many cases of bad parentage, most human parents love their children for the right reasons and not because they have this horrible hidden agenda for when they are old.

Let's say that all the pure love that Guardians carry inside is only for the Asetian Family and their true Love for which they would sacrifice themselves at once at one or the others loss. What would happen if their other half is merely a human being, a common human? What happens then? Or one Guradian will find true love within the Asetian family only?

And what happens to all the feelings they carry inside their hearts from newborns till they grow old enough to be independent, make their own decisions? Everything they knew their entire life will just vanish after the awakening?

If nothing else matters for them, how can they walk and breath every single day amongst a world they do not belong in if it's painted like that?

It's just too radical. Things are never painted in white and black.

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Post by Jonathan on 25/5/2009, 2:40 am

I believe that Guardians are very radical beings by nature. Their own minds and feelings are probably very hard, if not impossible, for us to understand. And yes, I do believe that many Guardians simply see all of those feelings vanishing after the awakening. Before the awakening they are not truly alive, that is why they are Vampires. Their lives start only after. Keep in mind we are not talking about Asetians in general, but about Guardians... and they are known for never being properly understood and accepted within society, precisely because of how radical they are, but yet, it all seems to be clearly obvious to them.

You also questioned if a Guardian would find her other half in a human being. I may be completely wrong, but personally I don't believe that could be possible. Guardians, more than anyone, despise the human nature and human beings. They want them far, no matter what. They would never have a human soulmate. What people call the soulmates of Guardians are beings to which they have dedicated their lives countless times, in their past reincarnations. This is a reason of why makes it so easy for them to abandon their parents... how can their mere parents from a few years compete with someone that has been with them for countless lifetimes? They just can't.

Adding to that, we are assuming that every Guardian has a soulmate. In my personal belief, Guardians with true soulmates and Owners would be a minority. Only a few Elders and such, but not all Guardians. Many do strive for that one true love, but maybe never found him/her yet... since they are so difficult to offer themselves to someone, forever.

Also, I believe that an Asetian would not call love to what you use the word love for. This is a very "Asetian thing". Their definition of love is different than that of humans, and they don't consider the feelings we may have for a children, a mother or a brother, to be their definition of love. It is a complex subject and it has been target of many debates related to Asetianism, even on some live events, to those that have access to them.

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by Aghrab on 25/5/2009, 3:19 am

geo wrote:What would happen if their other half is merely a human being, a common human? What happens then? Or one Guradian will find true love within the Asetian family only?


Guardians, especially Elder ones, will always 'stick' to the one true Love that they have had in past lives. I could see no possibility in an awakened, or even unawakened Guardian, to be falling in love for a human.

geo wrote:And what happens to all the feelings they carry inside their hearts from newborns till they grow old enough to be independent, make their own decisions? Everything they knew their entire life will just vanish after the awakening?


It will vanish, easily, because they never felt anything strong enough in the first place due to their inborn cold and detached ways.

geo wrote:If nothing else matters for them, how can they walk and breath every single day amongst a world they do not belong in if it's painted like that?

It's just too radical. Things are never painted in white and black.


I am not sure what you mean by this. Can you please explain?

Although, I will assume for now that you are asking how the Guardians live when nothing matters to them but their one true Love and their Asetian Family. If so, the answer is simple. They only live for their soulmates and only care for their allies because that is how their minds work, and that is how they feel complete, something that we cannot understand. It is like trying to understand the ways that Elder Gods love one another... we just cannot comprehend it. Guardians, above all Asetians, will always be criticized for their harsh and inhuman ways, but within their own Family, those ways are prized and cherished among themselves.

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Post by Aghrab on 25/5/2009, 3:24 am

Jonathan wrote:Also, I believe that an Asetian would not call love to what you use the word love for. This is a very "Asetian thing". Their definition of love is different than that of humans, and they don't consider the feelings we may have for a children, a mother or a brother, to be their definition of love. It is a complex subject and it has been target of many debates related to Asetianism, even on some live events, to those that have access to them.


Very well that you brought this up, Jonathan. I have heard that Asetians even criticize when the word “love” is used between parents and things that are just too shallow to be seen as Love. This subject is very hard to comprehend and accept, for many who have attachment to someone biological in life, but that is the part where one must be more open minded... This is how one evolves, I assume, by having to comprehend the more harsh Truth.

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