Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

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Post by geo on 3/6/2009, 7:30 pm

People use the word love for many things because it's a very complex and abstract concept. So from ones point of view it's quite natural to use it when expressing his or her admiration for a pair of shoes, or some nice weather or a great painting as it is for others to use it when expressing their affections for a primordial being, or a God of some sorts. Now the question is: is it used to much? ..It is, but is it wrong to use it in any given context? ..No. Why? Because we are all different, and different things are important to us. As far as I'm concerned, I love my daughter, and I like the color red. I hope one day I'll find the deeper meaning of love...

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Post by Syrianeh on 3/6/2009, 9:15 pm

Perhaps it is a cultural thing.

There are not enough verbs that portray a feeling of affection in the English language: Adore, love, like, favour... whereas in other languages, such as those derived from Latin like Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French... there are many more, that "categorize" affection by intensity, level of commitment, whether it is romantic or not, or merely familiar.

Anglosaxon languages such as English and German have been coined by a somewhat different temperament of thinking, where emotions are not made so apparent or open, thus the language lacks enough expressions.

Maybe we need to generate new words Smile

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Post by Dreamer on 15/6/2009, 8:31 am

Syrianeh wrote:Maybe we need to generate new words Smile


Haha. I can agree with you, completely... I believe it actually is a cultural thing, that we all end up using the word "love" towards everything. I really think we should cherish and respect that word, and come up with other words to use instead of it, when we want to express our attraction to objects and things that do not truly deserve the word "love"...

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Post by Aghrab on 19/7/2009, 5:24 am

Dreamer wrote:
Syrianeh wrote:Maybe we need to generate new words Smile


Haha. I can agree with you, completely... I believe it actually is a cultural thing, that we all end up using the word "love" towards everything. I really think we should cherish and respect that word, and come up with other words to use instead of it, when we want to express our attraction to objects and things that do not truly deserve the word "love"...

This is not something that we can blame just about anyone, for doing... using the word “Love” towards things that do not deserve such a strong and powerful word. I hear people use this word every day towards things like shoes, songs and the usual... however very rarely do I end up feeling anything against them for it, simply because they are not aware of this mistake... They have grown up around people who have used the word Love towards everything useless. However, when someone in the path of Asetianism uses that word over and over towards mundane things, is where I can see them misusing a word that literally describes the Aset Ka. Love, to them, is such a powerful word, such an important and special part of their lives, and when seeing people who are aware of this, go on and use that word towards the wrong things, is where I feel that they do not see deep enough.

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Post by godofbattle on 25/10/2009, 6:27 pm

I think I can relate to the guardians in this way. I can't say I love my parents. But, I don't hate them. I simply go to them for survival needs. There are alot of things they are not able to comprehend about me and so much they don't know. They often judge certin things about me because of this. I know why this is but sometimes it gets on my nerves. they try to impose things on me based on mundane limitations as I would call them. They try to get me to hang out with people and not to say that I don't want to but, I want to be around those that are worthy of being truely close to me. Which they lack the ability to find. Those few who have been able to know me truely will always be my adored secret. They will be kept from those who don't understand our connection.

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Post by heart-of-ink on 18/6/2010, 9:01 am

godofbattle wrote:I think I can relate to the guardians in this way. I can't say I love my parents. But, I don't hate them. I simply go to them for survival needs. There are alot of things they are not able to comprehend about me and so much they don't know. They often judge certin things about me because of this. I know why this is but sometimes it gets on my nerves. they try to impose things on me based on mundane limitations as I would call them. They try to get me to hang out with people and not to say that I don't want to but, I want to be around those that are worthy of being truely close to me. Which they lack the ability to find. Those few who have been able to know me truely will always be my adored secret. They will be kept from those who don't understand our connection.



I agree with you godof battle. I am still living with my parents, as I am only a teenager, but even now, I spend almost all of my time away from them. I believe I feel affection for my parents, but is it love? I truly do not know.
They believe I will like someone simply based on their appearence. (I tend to hang out with a non-conformist crowd and anyone that looks non-conformist is believed by my parents to be a person of interest to me) The truth is that I hold three people(none of which are family members) in my life that I hold close to my heart, and my parents are only aware of two. I do as I am told in order to survive, and recieve privileges. They also think that I refuse to engage with certain individuals because I am "anti-social" but it is simply that I do not care to be around people unless I choose to be around them, and they do not understand. The largest thing that makes me detach from my parents is that I do not find them open minded, and I feel as if they wish only to control me, and I prize my freedom above all but one thing.
Even though I hate to say it, if one of my parents, and one of those three people special to me, were both in the hospital for exactly the same reason, at the exact same progression, both the exact same distance to me in opposite directions, I would go to that person, other than my parent.
I would also like to say that I am in no way deluded to believe that I am a Vampire or anything else, and I discovered Asetianism just yesterday, this is simply how I feel and as a teenager, I feel that I may be a little "closer to home" on the topic of a child's love for his/her parent.

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by Aleina on 2/7/2010, 4:21 am

I believe that using those grounding stones, for Guardians, may create a bit more detachment and shield, therefore it would probably be better for Concubines, who need those qualities more, to use the grounding minerals. I think that it would have s positive effect on the Concubine's sense of detachment towards humans.

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Re: Guardian's Detachment and Grounding Stones

Post by Aleina on 2/7/2010, 4:25 am

heart-of-ink wrote:I would also like to say that I am in no way deluded to believe that I am a Vampire or anything else, and I discovered Asetianism just yesterday, this is simply how I feel and as a teenager, I feel that I may be a little "closer to home" on the topic of a child's love for his/her parent.


Greetings. You don't need to be a vampire to realize that connection between you and your parents, and to choose to spend most of your time away from them. If not society that effected you, it may simply be the energies that you unconsciously focus on, realizing that, they may be your biological parents, but you prefer to be around those who are closer to your soul than to your DNA.

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Post by Aleina on 2/7/2010, 4:27 am

Just to add onto what I said above:

I don't think that being an Asetian means that all lineages absolutely hate and are disgusted of their parents and bio family. Some may even hold some contact with their biological family, who knows. This doesn't mean that they love them. The whole extreme detachment mostly refers to the Guardian lineage, though all Asetians share a sense of detachment to their biological family.

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