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Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Ankhhape on 5/11/2008, 9:28 pm

I am wondering if anyone has actually found any documented proof (other than the Asetian Bible) that the Primordial vampires are of Egyptian origin?
I am having trouble verifying any of this information.

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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Hellen on 6/11/2008, 9:14 am

I am now studying the Coffin Texts , and I personally see it as very rich of proofs but I don't know if for common eyes these still could stand as proofs as long as many mysteries present even in the everyday life don't stand as proofs for them .
That's why we usually choose silence in front of profane eyes as it is the best way sometimes.

We also must not forget that the translation available is also interpretation of the texts .But even in the profane translation, one can clearly see the true meanings behind words.

For example you maybe have noticed that many spells are about feeding , and traveling , having 'power in your legs' to say just few of them , things that could be read literally , or could be read in an understanding which for me personally is very clear while i see things i've been experiencing myself .
The ancient egyptian texts mean for me a great metaphysical tool , just as Asetian Bible is .

I would very much like to know about other's oppinions on this .
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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Victor on 6/11/2008, 6:40 pm

I fully agree with what Hellen just said. She put it quite simple and straight-forward, proof is all around us, but it takes a deeper eye to see it sometimes.

It is true that the old texts are profane translations of what should be magickal and spiritual, but with their own scholar minds, sometimes the translators lack the feel to fully translate the meaning or feel of some texts. Some are not even meant to be translated!

Anyways, although Ancient Egypt is rich in vampiric spirituality and idealism, which could be called as proof, I cannot say that there is a direct exposure of them being the primordial vampires. However, since we can trace most things back to this culture, it is not so terrible to assume some roots to vampirism there as well.

To see the presence of vampiric themes and spirituality in Ancient Egypt, highly and deeply present in things as the Coffin Texts and the Pyramid Texts, we don't even need to go to this complex and confusing literature. We can settle for something as simple and as widespread as the history of Sekhmet, a bloodthirsty deity with a natural inborn disgust to mortal mankind. Said by many to have been an Asetian during the time of the Sep Tepy, Sekhmet is a known example of a vampiric force in higher divine powers of Ancient Egypt, and in much more than a single thing, a great example of a being from the Guardian lineage.

Just as an ending note of my view on this, if we are all looking for direct proof in front of out eyes, we won't go very far. Not everything can be proven as people expect to. Proof is there, just not in the form and taste as people expect it to be. This applies also to history and science. Just look at the pyramids as an example of this. Even the most highly ranked scholars of the world base their beliefs over its construction in nothing more than mere conjectures and personal opinions. There is no proof. Some things are meant for a deep understanding, for a feel, for a mystery, for a magick. When this comes to spirituality becomes even more obvious... proof of Gods, Asetians, Sethians and vampires is all around us since times of written history to the modern technological days of today. Just not everyone pays enough attention to follow the clues and put the pieces up together. People expect not a puzzle to work with, but a direct simple answer. In spirituality, same as in religion, there is no such thing...
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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Ankhhape on 6/11/2008, 6:45 pm

The only things I have come across so far is the story of Sekhmet and this story of Setem Ansi. Perhaps I am just too blind to see?
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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Victor on 6/11/2008, 7:05 pm

A'nen Sedjet wrote:The only things I have come across so far is the story of Sekhmet and this story of Setem Ansi. Perhaps I am just too blind to see?

Setem Ansi, as far as I can tell, is not a real story but a cyber psycho-babble created by Michelle Belanger to give credibility to her "cult" and merchandising, that aims to give her more power and a higher position by presenting herself as the modern incarnation of that Setem Ansi kid. Pointless.

If you are interested in finding deeper and more meaningful parallels with Vampirism, I believe you will enjoy to research deeper into the Coffin Texts and Pyramid Texts, try to study different translations, to get a more wide and open-minded view of the contents, make parallels between several different translations, from renown and credible authors, not online versions. I believe you may find surprisingly rich information about what you wish to learn.

Most of those parallels, clues and hints are not fully and directly explained online, since many things are part of the vampiric tradition mysteries, and are supposed to be found, learned and mastered in a personal quest for enlightenment. It is part of the spiritual initiatory process!

Vampires are not to be understood by the masses. Their mysteries are hidden and secretive. And no matter how much new age people try to fight for a widespread vampiric cultural background among the masses, that is something that is merely there to fill their own egos and passes by completely unnoticed by the real vampiric society and its internal mysteries, that are not and never will be open to those empty minds.

Hope this helped.
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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Ankhhape on 10/11/2008, 12:54 pm

Excellent, thank you Victor . . . I thought the Satem Ansi story was BS, now I'm sure.
Are the Coffin & Pyramid texts contained in the Book of the Dead or are they separate books?

Again thank you Victor,
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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Saylamine on 12/11/2008, 7:06 pm

Weren't the coffin texts inscribed upon coffins beginning in the Middle Kingdom? I found this link with a little more information on them: http://oi.uchicago.edu/research/pubs/catalog/oip/oip132.html

Now, the Pyramid texts were funerary writings on the walls of pyramids, correct?
Here's a link I found on the Pyramid texts:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/index.htm

I'd like to know much more on both the Pyramid and Coffin Texts as well. I appreciate all input.

Best wishes,

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Re: Proof of Egyptian Vampires

Post by Jonathan on 13/11/2008, 4:51 pm

A'nen Sedjet wrote:Excellent, thank you Victor . . . I thought the Satem Ansi story was BS, now I'm sure.
Are the Coffin & Pyramid texts contained in the Book of the Dead or are they separate books?

Again thank you Victor,
A'nen

Some parts may be included in the Book of the Dead as adaptations, however never fully or even close to that. The Book of the Dead is far more recent than the Pyramid and Coffin texts, which date from older periods. I believe the Pyramid texts to be the oldest, dating to the beginning of the Old Kingdom and some probably spreading to the Pre Dynastic. However I can't be fully positive at the moment, since I am not an expert on Egyptology, and will do a better research on that.

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