Deadly Poison

Aghrab wrote:

Hellen wrote:but i think there is one thing that could keep them alive , and that would be the Love for Aset her children ,a Guardian would never leave them while in danger or at war

I actually believe if the Guardian, although a being of Loyalty, Commitment and Power, would not go on in a "war" if her Love passes away. She would be too dead to go on in a battle. This does not mean she is weak, but simply that the Guardian would lose everything once her Love has died, that not even the Love she has for the Eternal Family can keep her to stay.

But the again, Guardians were highly known for being in the Imperial Guard, fighting blindly, fearlessly, to death against their enemies...

Aghrab

I agree that when this happens to a Guardian she is too dead inside to go on with life or fight in battles.
But when this happens at war , first comes the rage , and only after comes the pain , and rage is a very powerful engine .But indeed this is not a common situation.So ...who reads this, does not have to generalize ,these are just.. my feelings.

Hellen wrote:first comes the rage , and only after comes the pain

I still believe the pain over the loss of her Love would be far deeper, and far more intense than the rage she would feel in a "battle", and above all, I believe nothing could keep a Loyal Guardian to remain without her reason of existence - her Love.

Aghrab

Aghrab wrote:

Hellen wrote:first comes the rage , and only after comes the pain

I still believe the pain over the loss of her Love would be far deeper, and far more intense than the rage she would feel in a "battle", and above all, I believe nothing could keep a Loyal Guardian to remain without her reason of existence - her Love.

Aghrab

i still think that is a difference between rage versus love in general , and rage when love has to be revenged , Aset herself did that .
I think a Guardians rage should be esteemed as the most fearful thing ,
one should never consider that killing a Guardian's One is actually as killing 'two in one' if they ever dare.

Dear Aghrab,

I have been watching this post from the beginning trying to find out what I have been missing in life as I seem to not be able to understand the whole concept of killing ones self over the loss of a loved one/mate. I simply cannot understand it. It is not within me. Why I am confused is that in looking at the Asetian Bibble and the personality of each type, I found I fit almost every trait of a Guardian. I must be totally mistaken in that respect. Maybe I am more in line with the Sethians, then, as I cannot find within me the reason for killing myself if my mate was gone to the other side.

My thoughts are that the Vampire lives for life first and foremost. I will survive to the last breathe without giving up. I will fight to the death and not give up no matter what the odds and no matter who the adversary is. I simply cannot understand what emotion you are talking about in the above post description. If there is some part I am missing, please spotlight it for me. I suppose i am very warped in life. I cannot even punish or kill an animal of any type, but I have no problem in eliminating a human and would not think twice. Example. Driving the highway three days ago, I was in open praire land. I looked and saw a skunk walking across the highway. I had to do some manuvering but got off the highway to miss the animal and give it a wide berth. But in the oncoming lane I saw a truck approach and as it passed me swerved into the lane that the skunk was trying to get off the highway, and the truck purposely ran over and killed the animal as I watched in the rear view mirror. This upset me very much and I still think about it. I spoke and created a very bad happening to the truck driver and let it go with him to inflict him in the next 30 days............to slowly accomplish this destruction. To see that animal killed like that created a horrible emotional trauma which I still have and see. But I transferred that emotion into the destruction of that individual that killed the animal which I found very easy. Again, maybe I am a very warped individual but that shows my feelings in this area.

Regards,

Maxx

Maxx wrote:Dear Aghrab,

I have been watching this post from the beginning trying to find out what I have been missing in life as I seem to not be able to understand the whole concept of killing ones self over the loss of a loved one/mate. I simply cannot understand it. It is not within me. Why I am confused is that in looking at the Asetian Bibble and the personality of each type, I found I fit almost every trait of a Guardian. I must be totally mistaken in that respect. Maybe I am more in line with the Sethians, then, as I cannot find within me the reason for killing myself if my mate was gone to the other side.

The answer to that may be because you have no Love in life. The Guardian's attitude that Aghrab described applies only to Guardians that have a soul mate, which are not every Guardian, but only a rare few. In the case of a Guardian without another "half" of his soul, then in that situation I believe the Guardian would fight for life, honor and his mission until his last breath. Mostly, I can see a Guardian to do everything, but really everything, for their family (the Aset Ka), truly faithfully living for them.

Maxx wrote:
My thoughts are that the Vampire lives for life first and foremost. I will survive to the last breathe without giving up. I will fight to the death and not give up no matter what the odds and no matter who the adversary is. I simply cannot understand what emotion you are talking about in the above post description.

Life is not the utmost reason and engine for a Vampire. Love is.
Certainly, as rare as it is, most Vampires do not Love. And then is where fully applies what you just described... Life as an unconditional right and reason of existence.

Maxx, Victor basically said what I was going to say.

However what I mentioned in my previous post about the nature of the Guardian and how nothing can keep them from staying if their Love passes away, applies pretty much to Elder Guardians, or ones WITH a Love in their life.

As I said, Guardians were known for fighting fearlessly in the feared Imperial Guard... so I did not say that this makes them weak, not to "fight to death", however losing their Love, DOES kill them at heart unless the Guardian follows.

Aghrab

Hi Maxx ,

despite of having this seemingly contradictory discussion with Aghrab we were in fact talking about a particular situation in the last posts .
For the essence I share the same vision as she does .
You have to know Love to understand how Love is entwined with Life and Death .


Hellen

From my statement......I simply cannot understand what emotion you are talking about in the above post description......then all of you have shown me that I live life without a soul mate. I walk alone. No real love. BUT.....here is the strange part, I am uncanny in my happiness. In fact some think I am taking drugs....cod liver oil and fish oil caps....and I am happy in life as it seems I am complete. I even take 5-HTP caps. I also do not understand what people are talking about when I hear people talk of being depressed or living with anxiety. Depression does not live at my house. LOL.

Anyway, thank you for showing me what I have come up short in life with. I just simply could not associate with what you guys/gals were talking about.

Regards,

Maxx

Maxx wrote: To see that animal killed like that created a horrible emotional trauma which I still have and see. But I transferred that emotion into the destruction of that individual that killed the animal which I found very easy. Again, maybe I am a very warped individual but that shows my feelings in this area.

Regards,

Maxx

I don't think you are warped at all, Maxx. I myself belief one of the most despicable traits of humankind is its total disrespect for animals. I respect and love animals much more than I do people, because I know animals to act mainly out of instinct and self-preservation, and in many cases the preservation of their kind or even of their human protector. There is also the aspect of innocence. It truly enrages me to see how someone can take advantage of another being's innocence and vulnerability. That extends not just to animals but also to old people or children. In any case, if I see a child or elderly person mistreating a pet, I will give them a hard time for it. Whenever I think of how my beloved cat greatly depends on my protection and care it would NEVER ever cross my mind to abuse her or her trust.

Coming from a land of bullfights and pet-abusers, you can imagine how I am often extremely sad.